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Help please for a new owner!

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Tomir

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At long last we have bought a villa between the old town and the Port. Now the realisation of where do I go from there has got home! Can anyone help me please?

I need to rent the villa and with all the websites available I haven't a clue which to choose. I would like to rent right through the summer. Any recommendations please?

I also need someone to do the cleaning and laundry when rented. I have looked at ideal but they are so expensive. I'm not sure if I should try to find a local person or am I leaving myself open to being let down?
I would be grateful for recommendations.

Also I need a handyman type of person for odd jobs including changing a couple of taps and decorating. I might need a new sink you. Maybe a builder looking for few hours work? Would like to keep the costs down.

Any help or advice would be grateful
Thanks Very much

Chrissie
 
Hi Chrissie. I have sent you a pm. Good luck !!!!
 
Tomir said:
I also need someone to do the cleaning and laundry when rented. I have looked at ideal but they are so expensive. I'm not sure if I should try to find a local person or am I leaving myself open to being let down?
I would be grateful for recommendations.
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Do remember that as well as using a local company or individual for cleaning etc., you need someone to provide keys and a local contact, preferably available 24/7. When we carried advertising for rental properties, I was often contacted by guests who had difficulty contacting the owners or local contact when they arrived or during their stay.

For rental websites, if you advertise with HomeAway they will be listed on puertopollensa.com/holiday-rentals.html
 
I am going to stay out of this conversation other than to say that, in my humble opinion, if you employ someone to work in or on your property, and that person should have an accident that should need medical attention and wasn´t insured by you or the company they worked for, you will wish you had never purchased the property in the first place.
 
Thank you for your help. I've received a couple of pm's from members too which has really helped so thank you.
I also understand that good insurance is essential and that has been taken care of. It will include people working at the villa.

I'm still stuck deciding where to advertise. Thanks Pollensa for suggestion. Home and away seem very expensive. I wasn't aware pp.com took ads anymore? I'm have tried to find past posts on this?

Please can anyone help me with suggestions on good sites to try. I need to rent and don't want to miss the market by leaving too late. I've been in touch with a few agents but to be honest they want far too much commission!

Many thanks again for help

Chrissie
 
Tomir said:
Thank you for your help. I've received a couple of pm's from members too which has really helped so thank you.
I also understand that good insurance is essential and that has been taken care of. It will include people working at the villa.

I'm still stuck deciding where to advertise. Thanks Pollensa for suggestion. Home and away seem very expensive. I wasn't aware pp.com took ads anymore? I'm have tried to find past posts on this?

Please can anyone help me with suggestions on good sites to try. I need to rent and don't want to miss the market by leaving too late. I've been in touch with a few agents but to be honest they want far too much commission!

Many thanks again for help

Chrissie
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Chrissie, a normal private insurance is not enough. You will have to inscribe her in your name in the Spanish national health service, with all what that entails.

And to do this you will have to be registered in Tourism, which will then "allow" you to pay the corresponding taxes.

Molt
 
Getting scared now!! I have no problem paying any relevant tax. I've just spoken to the insurance company and I am insured up to a million for anyone working on my property. I will be taking people on not on a permanent contract so they will be as good as self employed.
 
Tomir said:
Getting scared now!! I have no problem paying any relevant tax. I've just spoken to the insurance company and I am insured up to a million for anyone working on my property. I will be taking people on not on a permanent contract so they will be as good as self employed.
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In that case they will have to be insured themselves with the Spanish social security as "autonomos".

Not trying to be difficult, but you are liable for anyone who works in your property and ALSO whilst they are coming and going to it via the shortest route.

You will also have to pay them the equivalent of 30 days holiday a year PLUS the equivalent of two extra months bonus, one in July and one in December all based on the amount of hours they work for you during a certain period of time.

The social security cost in Spain is around 40% of the basic salary plus these bonuses and also including all the paperwork that goes with it such as pay slips, submitting their tax every three months and other bits and bobs.

Of course you can take on staff and pay them by the hour, but is it worth it ?. I sometimes doubt it.

This is one of the reasons why the service industry over here seems so expensive.

Molt
 
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Hi Chrissie - I know it seems daunting at first - it did for us too - but it's a decision you will not regret!

I am sending you a PM re rentals, costs etc.
 
Tomir said:
I'm still stuck deciding where to advertise. Thanks Pollensa for suggestion. Home and away seem very expensive. I wasn't aware pp.com took ads anymore? I'm have tried to find past posts on this?
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You are right in that we don't take direct advertising anymore. Instead we display list of adverts provided for us by HomeAway - this is the list you will now see on our Rentals Page puertopollensa.com/holiday-rentals.html

By the way, if anyone is looking for rental adverts previously advertised on PP.com - they are listed here puertopollensa.com/list-all-properties & include the link to HomeAway if they are now on that site.
 
Molt de Renou said:
In that case they will have to be insured themselves with the Spanish social security as "autonomos".

Not trying to be difficult, but you are liable for anyone who works in your property and ALSO whilst they are coming and going to it via the shortest route.

You will also have to pay them the equivalent of 30 days holiday a year PLUS the equivalent of two extra months bonus, one in July and one in December all based on the amount of hours they work for you during a certain period of time.

The social security cost in Spain is around 40% of the basic salary plus these bonuses and also including all the paperwork that goes with it such as pay slips, submitting their tax every three months and other bits and bobs.

Of course you can take on staff and pay them by the hour, but is it worth it ?. I sometimes doubt it.

This is one of the reasons why the service industry over here seems so expensive.

Molt
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To add insult to injury, you will also have to pay her if she works on any of the 14 annual local or national bank holidays ( fiestas ).

If she is off ill, you are obliged to pay her her full salary for the first 9 days. After 9 days you pay her less, but the government knocks it off your Social Security bill.

And last, but not least, when you terminate her contract, you will have to pay her 12 days salary for every year she has worked for you.

Welcome to Spain and it´s labour laws !

Molt
 
Thank you for your help and suggestions. I nearly ran to the hills I must say! So much to think about and organise. Still need to decide how or where to advertise. Thanks everyone for being so helpful.
 
Hi Tomir - I take it you have managed to get a licence to rent out to tourists?
 
In Spain, nothing is a "must", but pleading ignorance to the powers that be, doesn't work and worse still, they won't accept.

They will assume that you have been given correct and uptodate advice, and if you haven't, that, as the saying goes, is your problem, not theirs.

If you purchased the property through an agency, I am surprised they didn't tell you the basics. Then again, if one doesn't ask, one doesn't get told.

If you haven't done so already I would recommend you contract the services of a solicitor, or better still, a gestoria ( gestor administrativo ) who are people / businesses who, for a fee, sort out the day to day paperwork of running a business and probably know more about the ins and outs of things like this better than anyone else, even more so than solicitors, and more importantly, know the people on the other side of the counter who wield ( at their pleasure and time frame ) the official stamp.

Molt
 
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Oh heck!!! More to worry about! No the agency did not tell us the basics and we did't think to ask - why should we! The agency did know we intended to rent and just said we were in an ideal area and wouldn't have any problems. So we went ahead on that basis.

Thank you.
 
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