The effects of "illegal" renting.

[rebel]

My local statistician (council employee) assures me that there are just short of four thousand lets in in PP alone, I am also reliably informed informed that it will not affect our Spanish compatriots as there are so many loopholes which will make it impossible to enforce.
Watch this space

Hi
Could you ask your council member Where the Spanish compatriots advertise there apartments so not to get prosecuted, how many of the four thousand lets are Spanish owned, and a few of the loopholes please.
Rebel

 

[Papillon]

It gets more farcical by the day, confusion upon confusion.

https://majorcadailybulletin.com/ne.../madrid-questioning-balearic-rentals-law.html

Not unexpectedly, Madrid is taking a look at the Balearic holiday rentals' legislation. The ministry for economic affairs had in fact advised the Balearic government in May that certain provisions in the law could be unconstitutional. It has three months to decide whether or not to lodge an appeal on the grounds that the legislation invades national law and contradicts European directives.

The ministry specifically referred to potential conflict with law on the operation of the internal market. The Balearic legislation was proposing provisions that would considerably hinder the marketing of certain types of accommodation. The effect, the ministry warned, would be the penalising of these classes of accommodation and the consequent impact in terms of competition and the overall tourism supply.

There was some modification as a result. Madrid had drawn attention to restrictive criteria, such as the supply of utilities to properties. Nevertheless, the law states, inter alia, that in properties for tourist commercialisation there have to be individual water meters registered with local water companies.

The ministry also has issues with the concept of zoning for tourist accommodation places and with licences only being valid for five years. The Balearic government was told to communicate these issues to the European Commission, something which hasn't been done.

If there is an appeal to the Constitutional Court, the legislation will be suspended for five months. At the end of that period, the court will have to decide whether to permanently suspend aspects of the legislation or not.

 

[rebel]

It gets more farcical by the day, confusion upon confusion.

https://majorcadailybulletin.com/ne.../madrid-questioning-balearic-rentals-law.html

HI Papillon
They need to get the confusion sorted, my apartment is on the market and just found out today my neighbor has put his up for sale as well.
where is this going to end.
Rebel

 

[Papillon]

We've had 14 years of great holidays Rebel but I no longer trust the Spanish to treat non residents fairly especially with the uncertainties of Brexit. Time to move on, apartment being valued next week, good luck with your sale.

 

[rebel]

Hi Papillion
Same here, as you said in a earlier post we can take a hit on the price due exchange rates too, when we purchased the Euro was €1.49 to the pound so can take that hit if we can come out with our original investment I would be happy, some Eu member will get a bargain as the rate will not affect them, we've had a major health problem in the family so need to regroup and change our holiday arrangements.
I'm sorry to say it but like you had some great times in the port but its time to move on.
I think the British thing one step behind the Spanish getting stitched up will only get worse during and after brexit for a few years. I want quality time now not worrying what will be next.
Might have to be a sunlamp and a wine cooler.
Rebel

 

[Sparky]

Another interesting post on Andrew's blog here :- alcudiapollensa.

 

[Bekki]

Very interesting article by Andrew. As a precaution after talking to many friends who also have apartments here over the last few weeks, we have decided to close our account with a large rental company. Just to be on the safe side. We will just have friends and family until matters are sorted out, which inevitably they will be. Reports from a couple of people in the last few days of an official gentleman knocking on doors in Pine Walk area asking if peole are renting. Still love PP and looking on the positive.

 

[graham]

Is it time to remove the inverted commas from ''illegal'' in the title of this thread?

 

[favie]

Possibly but maybe should wait and see what the outcome is now that Madrid is looking into the Balaerics Holiday Rental Legislation!

 

[sws97sdg]

Indeed, I can see this dragging on for months yet!!

 

[P&C@29]

Has anyone been prosecuted yet?

 

[lollipop]

I have heard of three being fined 8000 each in the same complex but I don't know when. It was something I was told third hand not directly so cant be 100% certain.

 

[graham]

I'm going to say the unsayable. But I, for one, will be delighted to see an end to the illegal rentals. Sadly some of the families who rent simply have no concept of consideration for others and ruin it for all. The parents seem to have no control over their offspring. The final straw was this afternoon when a 5 year old announced 'I'm going to do a widdle in the pool' and Mum just laughed. We live in a very pleasant area where the vast majority don't rent. Presumably we'll soon be able to put it to a vote as a community. I know which way my vote will go.

 

[Disorderly]

I see both sides of this. I'm hoping to buy next year, with no intention of anyone other than family and close friends staying, so I'd be delighted to buy in a block with no rentals. But then people want to come to our favourite resort and need somewhere to stay.

I wonder if the place has developed to such a level that hotel and bar staff are drafted in from the mainland and find it hard to rent long term accommodation? If so, it can only go one of two ways......and right now it doesn't really seem clear which!

 

[graham]

Eventually it will settle down. There will be developments which rent and those which don't. After the moratorium, those communities which decide 'en bloc' and (after a residents' vote) that they wish to rent will carry on doing so. Those which decide against it, won't. My guess is that - post moratorium - those who vote for it will be eligible to apply for a licence and will have to comply with the stringent legislation. It might lead to fewer tourists, but from recent discussions,even the tourist trade professionals in the area seem to agree that it's reached breaking point.

No doubt there will be a short term effect on property prices as those who can't rent offload their properties. But it will readjust in the medium term with prices returning to normal levels in the rental communities and those in areas which vote not to rent seeing a premium.

 

[Pocket_Buddy]

So between all of this, the price rises the hotels are applying and now the increase in tourist tax what's going to happen next? I've been coming to Pollença since I was 3 years old, 30 years on and the thought of being priced out of being able to visit, what genuinely feels like my second home, is horrible.

 

[Tomir]

Please look back to my posts earlier in the year. 6 months is a long time in Mallorca or perhaps a short time for some. After the comments and remarks so savagely thrown at me I decided to take a 6 month break from this site. I didn't have a crystal ball and I wasn't trying to close PP as had been suggested but had tried to inform and warn of what was about to happen. Not a told you so at all. It is with regret to see so many will suffer but something had to happen. I was in the Port all summer. It was becoming unruly with so many people. Those who live here had little choice but to put up with some behaviour by a minority which was unacceptable. Even to find parking was impossible. Tourism brings employment and money but it can also cost it dearly if unmanaged. A place can lose it's respect. It is a time of change and time will tell. 6 months will be another short or long time but one thing is for sure change in my opinion is about to happen and probably for the best putting Pollensa on the map once again as THE place to be!