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[animagic21]

Ha Sparky!! The letter in the MDB sounded as if had been written by Bob!!!
We totally empathise with the Shropshire lady.
At least if these huge groups of cyclists invade her lovely hills (The Long Mynd) the Police would get to grips with the appalling behaviour.
Furthermore, the hazard is worse when they are travelling downhill, as they then appear on the wrong side if the road from a bend. They even try to overtake motorists on bends!!
Sorry if this is on the wrong thread, as cycling on Pine Walk is much worse, as well as illegal.
We've had our say & hope common sense prevails.

 

[Sparky]

Animagic you have not posted this on the wrong thread .

 

[Nick]

Not sure whether you are in PP at the moment, Nick. If you are, you would have read about the cyclist and car driver killed in Sineu two days ago. A second cyclist in this accident is in a critical condition. You would also have witnessed unprecedented groups of cyclists whizzing through Pine Walk, plus the hundreds (not an exaggeration) of cyclists who totally ignore the No Entry sign from the roundabout towards Llenaire. You would also listen to tourists discussing two incidents last week between pedestrians & cyclists. I would not be comfortable with allowing any young children to wander along Pine Walk in a carefree manner, as they like to do.

Additionally, the behaviour of some cyclists in the evenings has not been good. When leaving the restaurants & bars at night, there has been much shouting amongst their huge groups.
These last three weeks have not been as pleasurable as normal. We have been visiting for 23 years, approx four times each year. Usually, this is Jan, April, June & Sept or Oct. Next year we will not visit in April. We are actually extremely positive people & not traditional British 'Moanies'. Having discussed the cycling situation with quite a few of the restaurant owners, they are all saying the same....Yes, there is a bad problem here now & the Police should address it.
I do hope that from May onwards, our normal service in lovely PP will be resumed.

I think you've totally misunderstood, or failed to read properly, my post. I've posted items about the nuisance cyclists. I'm merely not wanting people to be put off coming to PP.

 

[Rosie34]

Ha Sparky!! The letter in the MDB sounded as if had been written by Bob!!!
We totally empathise with the Shropshire lady.
At least if these huge groups of cyclists invade her lovely hills (The Long Mynd) the Police would get to grips with the appalling behaviour.
Furthermore, the hazard is worse when they are travelling downhill, as they then appear on the wrong side if the road from a bend. They even try to overtake motorists on bends!!
Sorry if this is on the wrong thread, as cycling on Pine Walk is much worse, as well as illegal.
We've had our say & hope common sense prevails.

It could also have been written by us after our experiences last month - especially on the narrow windy mountain roads - talk about a white knuckle ride Like you I think we will avoid April (birthdays or no birthdays) in future

 

[sleepyboaby]

On a lighter note.
Abit of motorway and dual carriageway were having a quiet drink in a pub when a part of redtarmac walks in."Finish your drink quick before there is any trouble"says the motorway."Thats a bit of a cyclepath thats just came in"
Sorry I apologise!!!!!

 

[CharlieV]

The tragic loss of life of two Swiss cyclists (second died later in Hospital) was the result of the driver of the car involved being on the wrong side of the road hitting them and a stone wall.RIP

source Mallorca Zeitung

As the wife of a cyclist, I'm appalled by some of the comments regarding cyclists in general on this site at the moment. It seems to me as though many of you are glad to hear about the tragic death of two cyclists - two less to hold you up on your "urgent" car journeys - shame on you all !
Yes I agree SOME cyclists are clearly not adhering to the rules of the road but let's not generalise please. They are not all "idiots" or the latest "menace on the road" - My husband would NEVER ride on the pavement or in the pedestrian area.
Every time he goes out on his bike I wonder if I will see him alive again.
So, yes I'm sorry to anyone who's ever had to wait behind him for five minutes but at least he, and you, are still alive.

 

[PP76]

I am sure everyone was very sorry to hear of the tragic deaths that happened, no one is saying that all cyclists or drivers are not safe but some very clearly are a danger and if both drivers and cyclists followed the rules it would reduce that chance of other accidents happening.
If people have to wait for slower moving traffic then so what! however if people are faced with cars or bikes coming towards them the wrong way on a one way road that is not acceptable. This happened several times to me in April, I am now waiting for our taxi to take us to the airport and hope all road users are more sensible this trip.

 

[hoopy]

As the wife of a cyclist, I'm appalled by some of the comments regarding cyclists in general on this site at the moment. It seems to me as though many of you are glad to hear about the tragic death of two cyclists - two less to hold you up on your "urgent" car journeys - shame on you all !
Yes I agree SOME cyclists are clearly not adhering to the rules of the road but let's not generalise please. They are not all "idiots" or the latest "menace on the road" - My husband would NEVER ride on the pavement or in the pedestrian area.
Every time he goes out on his bike I wonder if I will see him alive again.
So, yes I'm sorry to anyone who's ever had to wait behind him for five minutes but at least he, and you, are still alive.

100% this. I must admit I dont see the attraction in cycling and with the amount of careless drivers about I would urge my kids never to get involved in it. Anytime I see a group of cyclists I'm happy to let them dictate when to pass and when not to. They are as welcome on the road as anybody.

 

[hoopy]

No Hoopy we decided not to report this to the police. We felt that informing the relevant club and making the problems known by using social media would be more productive. It was hoped it would be enough to ensure nothing like this happened again and they would police their own.

Your husband was assualted phsically and verbally and you didnt report it to the police? Serious?

I only hope the assailant doesnt go on to do something more serious to another pedestrian.

 

[Sparky]

As the wife of a cyclist, I'm appalled by some of the comments regarding cyclists in general on this site at the moment. It seems to me as though many of you are glad to hear about the tragic death of two cyclists - two less to hold you up on your "urgent" car journeys - shame on you all !
Yes I agree SOME cyclists are clearly not adhering to the rules of the road but let's not generalise please. They are not all "idiots" or the latest "menace on the road" - My husband would NEVER ride on the pavement or in the pedestrian area.
Every time he goes out on his bike I wonder if I will see him alive again.
So, yes I'm sorry to anyone who's ever had to wait behind him for five minutes but at least he, and you, are still alive.

I disagree with your first paragraph, nobody has said they are glad that two cyclists have died. The complaints are because some cyclists are breaking the law .

 

[favie]

It seems to me as though many of you are glad to hear about the tragic death of two cyclists - two less to hold you up on your "urgent" car journeys - shame on you all !

I don't think for one moment any member of this Forum would be glad of that or any humane person would!
It was a complete and utter tragedy.

 

[Sparky]

I don't think for one moment any member of this Forum would be glad of that or any humane person would!
It was a complete and utter tragedy.

Absolutely Favie it's tragic, the female driver of the car also died. First reports say the she was on the wrong side of the road but it is not yet clear if this was due to bad driving, illness or mechanical failure .

 

[Watty]

Your husband was assualted phsically and verbally and you didnt report it to the police? Serious?

I only hope the assailant doesnt go on to do something more serious to another pedestrian.

Thanks hoopy!

So there you have it folks. If you need support and guidance just refer to this site. I had a comment all ready to upload on to this thread and all of it I felt was constructive. I don't think I shall bother as I'm sure it would have encouraged more of just that.
Comments like that are destructive and only add to the pressure.
Dear Eleanor, I hope you and your family are continuing to put this nasty episode behind you.
I have struggled on occasions with "our" site but now feel it time to sign off for a while. I'll try to stear clear for at least a couple of months.
Finally, Sparky, thanks for all your efforts trying to keep the site for the purpose for which it was designed.

 

[Sparky]

Your husband was assualted phsically and verbally and you didnt report it to the police? Serious?

I only hope the assailant doesnt go on to do something more serious to another pedestrian.

Thanks hoopy!

So there you have it folks. If you need support and guidance just refer to this site. I had a comment all ready to upload on to this thread and all of it I felt was constructive. I don't think I shall bother as I'm sure it would have encouraged more of just that.
Comments like that are destructive and only add to the pressure.
Dear Eleanor, I hope you and your family are continuing to put this nasty episode behind you.
I have struggled on occasions with "our" site but now feel it time to sign off for a while. I'll try to stear clear for at least a couple of months.
Finally, Sparky, thanks for all your efforts trying to keep the site for the purpose for which it was designed.

Watty, it makes me sad that you are going to "sign off" and i fear you are not alone. I sometimes despair at the lack of respect shown by some members at times .

 

[Rosie34]

As the wife of a cyclist, I'm appalled by some of the comments regarding cyclists in general on this site at the moment. It seems to me as though many of you are glad to hear about the tragic death of two cyclists - two less to hold you up on your "urgent" car journeys - shame on you all !
Yes I agree SOME cyclists are clearly not adhering to the rules of the road but let's not generalise please. They are not all "idiots" or the latest "menace on the road" - My husband would NEVER ride on the pavement or in the pedestrian area.
Every time he goes out on his bike I wonder if I will see him alive again.
So, yes I'm sorry to anyone who's ever had to wait behind him for five minutes but at least he, and you, are still alive.

I really dont know how you have got the impression that anyone is glad to hear about a cyclist death - nothing is further from the truth from any of the comments made on here. And I am sure nobody wishes any ill of any cyclists.

People are quite rightly expressing their opinions and experiences regarding the arrogant behaviour of some cyclists and how they use the roads. Nobody is complaining about being held up for 5 minutes - its about the way many cyclists use the narrow roads by not using cycle lanes or straddling the white lines. I agree that they are maybe in the minority but when you are faced with a group on a narrow road - well it is quite disconcerting trying to pass and hoping that the one on the outside doesnt 'wobble' off

It's a case of road courtesy and making life easy for everyone to enjoy the beautiful island.

 

[eleanor]

Your husband was assualted phsically and verbally and you didnt report it to the police? Serious?

I only hope the assailant doesnt go on to do something more serious to another pedestrian.

No We didn't report to the police Hoopy and I think that was the correct decision. If you read my posts you would understand our thinking in contacting the club to allow them the opportunity to
Police their own. You might also note that I and the chairman have exchanged emails. They come down very hard on anyone showing any form of disrespect. I feel sure this was a one off by this cyclist and indeed his club and lessons have been leant. Much more productive in our view. Also 'let him without sin' comes to mind. How many of us can honestly not admit to doing something and reacting only to
Later regret. I feel happy we did the right thing and I feel happy the club have too. If just one club takes on board the actions and feelings then that might just have a much more positive effect than getting police involved. I hope this clarifies our position. A positive outcome we believe!

 

[eleanor]

Watty, it makes me sad that you are going to "sign off" and i fear you are not alone. I sometimes despair at the lack of respect shown by some members at times .

Watty please don't sign off! The majority of people on this site are just nice normal people enjoying all PP has to offer and trying to
Help each other. I've met some lovely friends via this site who I know will be in my life for ever. Don't be put off by some who seem to have their own agenda.
Sparky does her very best to keep us calm and ensure this site does as it is supposed. There have been many a time when I have thought of taking a backward step and I consider myself a strong person.

My husband is fine thank you. I know we dealt with this in totally the correct way and no-one will influence that decision. If nothing else this thread has brought home how safety is the issue for those on bikes, those in cars and indeed those on feet. Please God we don't have to hear of any more deaths or injuries. To be honest I feel we have come far forward not involving the police than involving them over our personal incident.
Sparky you have a hard job which you do well - Watty this site needs people such as you! Don't go - let those with questionable agendas be the ones to disappear!

 

[Sparky]

Thank you Eleanor .

 

[eleanor]

Following on from my initial post regarding the incident along Pine Walk I thought I would post the email received from Nigel the chairman of High Wycombe cycling club. As mentioned in my previous post Nigel and I have been in communication since the incident. I have much faith that the intention is to ensure that his members are very aware of what has happened and what could potentially be the consequences and that this will not happen again. I feel happy that this has been concluded and thank Nigel for taking on board the impact some members can have on any club. I feel that if just one club takes a positive attitude as have High Wycombe then this will with hope pass to other clubs too. In my view much more productive than getting police involved and shouting from the roof tops. I hope the cyclists return and enjoy Mallorca and especially Pollensa and safety and curtesy are the consideration of everyone on or off a bike!

Incident in Puerto Pollensa
From Nigel

I thought I should just let you know that the Club Committee discussed this incident on Monday evening. The decision of the Committee was that the behaviour of our member was not acceptable, and he has now received a formal reprimand from the Club.

The Club highly values its training camp in Mallorca, so we will be back next year, but I can assure you that all members will be fully briefed prior to, and on arrival. Not cycling in pedestrianised areas and particularly Pine Walk will be strictly enforced.

Kind regards,

Nigel

 

[Rosie34]

Eleanor I'm so glad that this unpleasant incident has been resolved in a civilised and satisfactory way