Semi-Pedestrianisation of the front line in PP.

[Nick]

I really don't think any of us are willing the project to be a failure, completely the opposite certainly for me. I just feel that it's been hurried and not done properly. I think there is time to correct much of it and of course we'll all give them that.

My main worry though is has the cement base been laid properly? There were cracks appearing in it earlier this month and they certainly won't heal! Maybe that's to be expected I don't know.

Chelseadons hits the nail on the head though with his comment regarding PP having to keep up with investment and money spent to keep the port in good order. Obviously the pedestrianisation should only be the start of it.

Can't wait for my next visit, honest!

 

[Sparky]

Guys i wasn't being critical of your opinions honestly, i was just concerned that people would not realise that the letter referred to how things were at Easter .

 

[Nick]

No problem Sparky.

Tensions are running high at the moment with "crazy cyclists", "problematic pedestrianisation" and "iffy ice cream huts"!

We need to know the facts!

 

[Chelseadons]

No offence taken Sparky as Nick says we are all just showing we care , I too am desperate for this to eventually be a success.

 

[Belladonna]

Thanks to all those who have arrived recently and can look at all the problems with fresh eyes and give the concise reports that you have done. It really does seem that those who were concerned about the plans etc right at the start had good reason to be worried. We are out very soon and certainly concerned about all the problems that have arisen this year.
I don't think that any of the problems can be left to fester with the view of "lets just wait and see". Problems have to be addressed as soon as they appear, the sooner the better. Once they have been set in concrete (!) there is very little chance of them being rectified. Lets hope that the promise of the next stage being the one that magically makes all the original problems disappear is not just talk. Who believes in magic?

 

[sws97sdg]

This rain isn't going to help get all the last bit finished this week!!

 

[klad1]

We were out early April. The works don't look that bad. It is quite quirky to see the odd footprint amongst the pattern of shells in the cement. The old pavement was looking very tired.

But who spends their time looking at the pavement when surrounded by such beautiful ocean and mountain views?

 

[P&C@29]

pavements

well said Klad1 pavements are for walking on not looking at !!

 

[debz1]

We were out early April. The works don't look that bad. It is quite quirky to see the odd footprint amongst the pattern of shells in the cement. The old pavement was looking very tired.

But who spends their time looking at the pavement when surrounded by such beautiful ocean and mountain views?

If you aren't bothered about aesthetics then you would be happy with however it looked. Time will tell what others think when they have seen it, but speaking to locals there are many who are very unhappy with it. Puerto Pollensa is one of the best resorts on the island and standards should be maintained. Personally I am as much concerned with the quality of the job as the look...on the beach side, which everyone knows was a rushed job, large cracks are already appearing.

This project has cost a huge amount of tax payers money and if there is little return, on both quality and aesthetics (for those that do think it's important) then what has been the point?

Jewel of the North ....looking more CZ than diamond

 

[Nick]

Dead right there IMO. Yes, I suppose a few footprints and uneven printing isn't really problematic atall. Obviously we don't spend much time looking at the ground.
The real issue is the quality of the workmanship and materials used. It is cracking in places. Slight fissures may not be a major problem, apart from looking unsightly, but if it's a sign of a botched job then the repercussions of replacing it are horrendous.

PP is a quality resort and both needs and deserves a quality finish. A lot of visitors will rate it on such things and repeat custom is vital.

Really depends on your viewpoint ultimately I suppose.

 

[sws97sdg]

It hasn't put people off up to now, lets not forget how bad the paths have been for years, cracked tiles, missing tiles, cracks and more, people have still been coming back!

 

[debz1]

It hasn't put people off up to now, lets not forget how bad the paths have been for years, cracked tiles, missing tiles, cracks and more, people have still been coming back!

Maybe it hasn't put people off up to now ..although it's impossible to tell how many people haven't returned because they thought the place was looking tired and unkempt in comparison to other places. I think there's no doubt most people on this forum love PP which is why after years off this project being planned there are a lot of residents and tourists unhappy with the result. Huge amounts of tax payers money have been invested to improve on the state of the pavements etc and there is no denying it is a poor, rushed job.

IMO I don't think the photos that have been posted on various sites demonstrate quite how bad it looks.

 

[Sparky]

A huge part of the funding for the project came from Madrid (yes i know it's still taxpayer's money) but this also came with a deadline which meant if the council hadn't pushed ahead with it this winter the money would have had to be returned, therefore the whole thing would have been put on the back boiler again. We could then have had to put up with the deteriorating pavements and road for many more years to come.

Again, i am not voicing my opinion but this is fact.

 

[Molt de Renou]

Maybe you should voice an opinion.

Mine is that only taxpayers have the right to complain, and the ones that I have spoken to are pleased with the result.

OK it´s not perfect, but neither are we Monte Carlo.

And when I say taxpayers I mean people who live, work and possibly run businesses here, pay income tax and maybe death duties here, and generally contribute to the upkeep of the country.

And before I receive any backlash for the above non PC comments, let me state that I am British and not Mallorquin, have run various businesses here since before Franco died, one of them supplying a product to Temple Fielding´s son, who I met and who used to live in a flat above what is now the Sea Bar.

 

[lollipop]

I still think that when the sea wall is replaced and new seating along that stretch , the road laid and the kerbs gone it will look better. I agree it is very grey but it will soon mellow. There are expansion cuts across the concrete which also allow for one section to be lifted and replaced without having to do the whole lot.

 

[Nick]

Ouch!
While not wanting to get into a political debate I must strongly disagree with you there. What about the tourists who come to PP and spend their money which then has tax paid on it by the recipient? Or are you telling me that doesn't count?

What sort of place, if indeed it were still to exist, would PP be without tourism? You contribute much MdR, for which I for one am grateful, but I think this post is somewhat unwarranted.

 

[Chelseadons]

Maybe you should voice an opinion.

Mine is that only taxpayers have the right to complain, and the ones that I have spoken to are pleased with the result.

OK it´s not perfect, but neither are we Monte Carlo.

And when I say taxpayers I mean people who live, work and possibly run businesses here, pay income tax and maybe death duties here, and generally contribute to the upkeep of the country.

And before I receive any backlash for the above non PC comments, let me state that I am British and not Mallorquin, have run various businesses here since before Franco died, one of them supplying a product to Temple Fielding´s son, who I met and who used to live in a flat above what is now the Sea Bar.

Not sure what that last paragraph contributes to make your opinion more important than anyone else's ? I'm pretty certain Temple Fielding would hold Puerto Pollensa in much higher regard than you appear to and would want the front to aspire to Monte Carlo as well.

All home owners are taxpayers and so now are all tourists. In addition they spend significant amounts of money to the benefit of local businesses and residents , so of course they have a right to an opinion.

Your suggestion they should be excluded, regrettably appears to be because not everyone agrees with you. For what it's worth most the locals I have spoken with are disappointed with the current situation but hope it will eventually be resolved. In my opinion in a democracy the best way of ensuring this happens is for people to outline their concerns and to stand up and be counted. Failure to do so normally means you get exactly what you deserve.

 

[pescador2009]

Well 'Molt', you've certainly been in PP for many years as Franco past away in late 1975. You will have been there a lot longer than the vast majority of posters on this forum. That is what makes most of your posts very interesting - local knowledge!
Obviously this does not exclude others from making their own points, many of which seem quite valid.
As a visitor of long standing I along with both residents and other persons who holiday in PP wish to continue to see the best possible outcome of any present / future developments. PP has done quite well previously with the excellent long established pedestrianisation of the Pine Walk, the very large contracts to enlarge the Harbour (Marina) area and the reconstruction of Stay restaurant to name but a few.

 

[Sparky]

Maybe you should voice an opinion.

Mine is that only taxpayers have the right to complain, and the ones that I have spoken to are pleased with the result.

OK it´s not perfect, but neither are we Monte Carlo.

And when I say taxpayers I mean people who live, work and possibly run businesses here, pay income tax and maybe death duties here, and generally contribute to the upkeep of the country.

And before I receive any backlash for the above non PC comments, let me state that I am British and not Mallorquin, have run various businesses here since before Franco died, one of them supplying a product to Temple Fielding´s son, who I met and who used to live in a flat above what is now the Sea Bar.

As i have said many times, every member of this forum has the right to voice their opinions as long as they are not abusive.

 

[Molt de Renou]

I quite agree with the last posts and in NO way do I consider my opinions to more valid than others.

But what does annoy me is that people who are hardly ever here, criticise the spanish way of doing things and how things end up being done.

They have their system and we have ours. Neither is better or worse, just different.

For instance I very much doubt that a British company could have done such a good and fast job as the one done in Hotel Mar Senses.

I have always considered myself to be a guest here, as nobody asked me to come.

Of course things aren´t perfect, but how many people would pay top dollar to live here if they could, so lets accept the paseo as it is and appreciate all the other fantastic things we have that are free of charge and that make life so enjoyable and stress free.