The effects of "illegal" renting.

[El Gordo]

https://majorcadailybulletin.com/news/local/2017/03/26/47384/strains-and-silences-the-week-majorca.html

""Zoning rentals
The draft for the holiday rentals legislation is due to be approved before Easter. The government, we learned, will then rush it through parliament and hopefully have it in force by June. There was more explanation of the "zoning" ........."


see full article (and more interesting snippits) on the MDB website

Further Information here: Spanish Property Insight

 

[Gp1602]

This would seem good news for holiday rentals in Puerto Pollensa then? Obviously not if you own in a community and the majority are against renting and you want to, but good for people looking to stay as there will be legally available property for them.

 

[Gommar Goffer]

it depends - it could potentially see a large reduction in available properties for holiday lets

 

[bevgt]

So when you are looking for a property to buy with the intention of renting they would be able to show you something to say this community wants to rent or is against it.

 

[El Gordo]

So when you are looking for a property to buy with the intention of renting they would be able to show you something to say this community wants to rent or is against it.

Could a community change its mind?
As its a simple majority, as community owners change the support for renting could change.
Its a wait and see situation until more information is released by the Government!

 

[mike_dublin]

It'll be a good while of 'wait and see' ...


https://majorcadailybulletin.com/ne...sts-regularise-apartment-holiday-rentals.html

Perhaps it is the consequence of confusion over how legislation is processed in the Balearics, but it would seem that thousands of people turned up at the tourism ministry last week in an attempt to "regularise" their holiday apartments.The cabinet approved the text of the legislation on 7 April. This approval did not make it law, though. That will only happen when parliament passes the legislation, and there could yet be amendments arising from the debates that will be had. ...

...

In addition to any confusion over where the legislation is in the processing procedure, the response perhaps also demonstrated a lack of understanding of the law as it is at present. ...


It is anticipated that parliament will pass the legislation in the second half of June. It will then be most likely that there will be no granting of registration requests until next year.

see full article on the MDB website

 

[eleanor]

Same old subject - rentals and licences! We have been informed that it will be near on impossible to obtain a rental licence as from July 1st for any property to include villas. We have applied for and have a rental number as we do rent and we are also intending to sell our villa, so an advantage for any new owner or future owners. Whilst I am happy with have a licence I do wonder if this information regarding future difficulties is in fact correct?

 

[lollipop]

I guess until the new law comes into force in September no one knows for sure. Then I believe it is down to local councils.

 

[rebel]

I guess until the new law comes into force in September no one knows for sure. Then I believe it is down to local councils.

HI All
Do you know or anybody know what the content of the new law will be that comes into force in September.
Rebel

 

[Lorenzo]

Many of the local apartment owners in our block seem to think that the Community will need to put the concept of renting to a vote.
Having said that, everything is speculation at this stage - so who knows what the outcome will be in the future.

 

[favie]

Many of the local apartment owners in our block seem to think that the Community will need to put the concept of renting to a vote.
Having said that, everything is speculation at this stage - so who knows what the outcome will be in the future.

Oh! Good Golly Gosh....here we go again! Although everything is speculation at this stage, do you advise holding out in booking for 2018 just in case all goes pear shaped?

 

[lollipop]

Yes Lorenzo I read that and also that apartments will need to have individual water meters which not all have . We certainly only have a community meter and pay in our yearly fees.

 

[P&C@29]

Hi all we have booked an apartment for Sept/Oct if the law comes into force in September will we still be able to use the apartment will our booking be safe or will we lose our holiday, very worried as what will happen.

 

[Rosie34]

Hi all we have booked an apartment for Sept/Oct if the law comes into force in September will we still be able to use the apartment will our booking be safe or will we lose our holiday, very worried as what will happen.

We have also booked an apartment for October this year so we are really hoping that there won't be a problem

 

[Tommo]

We were thinking of booking an apartment for September/October. Not sure now. I'll keep watching this thread. In the meantime. I'm sure Sparky will keep us well informed.

 

[sws97sdg]

I would have thought it might take months for this to work itself out, nothing happens overnight in Spain as we know, I am not worried about my 2 weeks in September

 

[Sparky]

The new law has not been passed yet and i understand that Madrid might not accept all of it. Meanwhile this is a rough translation from todays UH online, the original can be read here :- https://ultimahora.es/noticias/loca...ra-aprobacion-ley-del-alquiler-turistico.html.

The Govern appeals to the responsibility for the approval of the law of tourist rental.


The Government spokeswoman, Pilar Costa , has called on the parliamentary groups "to call for accountability" in order to reach the widest possible consensus in order to pass the tourism rental regulation law , following the threat of We may not vote for favor.

"The Government has no intention of withdrawing the law, on the contrary, it has defended from the outset that a law is needed to regulate an activity that exists, such as holiday rental ", Costa insisted when asked about the issue in the Press conference of the Council of Government.

Costa has opened the possibility to "rethink" some of the more restrictive measures, such as "the possibility of limitation of housing that can be leased by one owner".

The objective is that We can not vote together with the PP against the law, which is expected to be approved initially in the extraordinary plenary on July 18.

According to Costa, the objective is to approve it in July , when two plenary sessions (July 18 and 24) will be held and hope to be able to make progress in the negotiations and make concessions, even on the day of voting for the law.

The Government considers that parliamentary and political groups should make "an effort" to have "maximum agreement" on a "fundamental issue", although it is aware that "there will be no 100% agreement".

To this end, the different political groups currently negotiate the law in papers and commissions,

 

[rebel]

HI Spaky
Am I right or not the new law will look like the posting below I copied from another site.

New Holiday Rental Law In The Balearic Islands

DECEMBER 20, 2016
Many apartment rentals will be forced to leave Airbnb. In order to regulate the situation of holiday rentals in Mallorca, a bill has been submitted that could enter into force by next April 2017.

According to the new regulations, landlords would have to pay about 600 – 1000€ per tourist (not per apartment), in addition to fulfilling many other requirements that we explain below:

mallorca-airbnbtax

Requirements to be able to rent a holiday apartment in Balearic Islands:

1. Holiday rentals only in certain areas: The Consell and Cort will define in which areas you can have a tourist flat. It will be determined in which neighbourhoods, streets or towns it is legal to have accommodation for the holiday rental. In addition there will be a maximum number of places according to the zone.

2. Have the permission of the community of neighbours: It will be necessary that the community of neighbours, by simple majority, approve the use of the apartment as vacation rental. On the contrary, renting buildings with multi-family dwellings is now prohibited.
Another novelty is that the accommodation must have a seniority of more than 10 years and a habitability certificate.

3. Guarantee of a minimum quality: The apartments must offer the minimum benefits of other holiday accommodation, for example without any architectural barriers. It is even possible that flats without a lift may be excluded from holiday rentals. In addition they will have to offer a cleaning service, 24 hour telephone calls, to have an individual water meter, equipped kitchen, to be insured and to have the certificate stated they are energy efficient.

4. Pay per tourist place. Each square that is regularised will cost between 600 and 1000 euros. But beware, that by tourist we do not refer to the how many rooms there are, but to how many tourists can stay in the flat. So, a 3 bedroom apartment with 6 beds would pay between 3000 and 6000 euros.

I take it this will also be a requirement for villas etc.
Rebel

 

[Gommar Goffer]

At those sort of tax levels it would be uneconomic to rent out thus resulting in a loss of potential millions in revenue, a shortage of available lets and a big increase in rental prices!

 

[Sparky]

HI Spaky
Am I right or not the new law will look like the posting below I copied from another site.

New Holiday Rental Law In The Balearic Islands

DECEMBER 20, 2016
Many apartment rentals will be forced to leave Airbnb. In order to regulate the situation of holiday rentals in Mallorca, a bill has been submitted that could enter into force by next April 2017.

According to the new regulations, landlords would have to pay about 600 – 1000€ per tourist (not per apartment), in addition to fulfilling many other requirements that we explain below:

mallorca-airbnbtax

Requirements to be able to rent a holiday apartment in Balearic Islands:

1. Holiday rentals only in certain areas: The Consell and Cort will define in which areas you can have a tourist flat. It will be determined in which neighbourhoods, streets or towns it is legal to have accommodation for the holiday rental. In addition there will be a maximum number of places according to the zone.

2. Have the permission of the community of neighbours: It will be necessary that the community of neighbours, by simple majority, approve the use of the apartment as vacation rental. On the contrary, renting buildings with multi-family dwellings is now prohibited.
Another novelty is that the accommodation must have a seniority of more than 10 years and a habitability certificate.

3. Guarantee of a minimum quality: The apartments must offer the minimum benefits of other holiday accommodation, for example without any architectural barriers. It is even possible that flats without a lift may be excluded from holiday rentals. In addition they will have to offer a cleaning service, 24 hour telephone calls, to have an individual water meter, equipped kitchen, to be insured and to have the certificate stated they are energy efficient.

4. Pay per tourist place. Each square that is regularised will cost between 600 and 1000 euros. But beware, that by tourist we do not refer to the how many rooms there are, but to how many tourists can stay in the flat. So, a 3 bedroom apartment with 6 beds would pay between 3000 and 6000 euros.

I take it this will also be a requirement for villas etc.
Rebel

I think we all need to wait and see, as i have said before the law has not been passed yet and i see the article you have quoted is from December 2016, things have probably changed.