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hoopy
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What speed do you think they were doing sunshine? I was out a couple of weeks ago and saw no cyclists going fast along the semi-pedestrianised section.
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bobley
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Can we please calm down with the cyclist bashing. I enjoy cycling and it's the main reason I came to Pollenca.
Have there been any incidents?
I see people being idiots in cars several times a day. There was a crash outside work on a straight road today involving a Corsa and a crash barrier. I still havent worked out how he did it. The only time I've helped a cyclist out after a crash was when an old guy put his front wheel in to the gutter and lost it on Newcastle riverside. He was going really slow.
If there's a real problem raise it with the police.
Have there been any incidents?
I see people being idiots in cars several times a day. There was a crash outside work on a straight road today involving a Corsa and a crash barrier. I still havent worked out how he did it. The only time I've helped a cyclist out after a crash was when an old guy put his front wheel in to the gutter and lost it on Newcastle riverside. He was going really slow.
If there's a real problem raise it with the police.
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MPH133
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Maybe if you took your blinkers off.....
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bobley
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hoopy
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Well said Bobley.
With my blinkers firmly off I saw no problems whatsoever during April with cyclists going too fast however a motorist did smash right into the side of my car during January outside the guardia civil when he wasn't looking where he was going and I had to whistle a few times at dozy pedestrians not looking whilst crossing the road.
If only they pesky motorists and pedestrians had brains........
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bobley
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My folks popped down to Sea.Bar.Is for lunch last week. When they finished they strolled back up the street only to find the back of a van slammed so hard into the grille of their shiny new polo rental car that it had shunted into the car behind.
My dad was about to pass out when they noticed another shiny new polo another 20 yards down the road... luckily that was their polo.
I cant imagine how fast the cyclist must have been going when he slammed into the front of the van....
My dad was about to pass out when they noticed another shiny new polo another 20 yards down the road... luckily that was their polo.
I cant imagine how fast the cyclist must have been going when he slammed into the front of the van....
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rebel
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My guess is he probably still had his blinkered glasses on.
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Tangoman
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Should have gone to Specsavers!
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Caerfryn
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On more than one occasion today the PP webcam has shown cyclists riding on the road and against the flow of the traffic.
Are these particular people stupid, ignorant, suicidal or do they just think that they are better than everyone else and can do whatever they please regardless of anyone else's safety and well being?
It really makes my blood boil when I see this, especially after all the work and expense that has been given over to provide them with safe (for both cyclists and pedestrians) cycle lanes.
These people are ruining the reputation of the majority who do use the lanes and are generally courteous to others.
I don't know if these lanes are policed but I suspect a few hefty fines to those who abuse the law may have the desired effect.
Are these particular people stupid, ignorant, suicidal or do they just think that they are better than everyone else and can do whatever they please regardless of anyone else's safety and well being?
It really makes my blood boil when I see this, especially after all the work and expense that has been given over to provide them with safe (for both cyclists and pedestrians) cycle lanes.
These people are ruining the reputation of the majority who do use the lanes and are generally courteous to others.
I don't know if these lanes are policed but I suspect a few hefty fines to those who abuse the law may have the desired effect.
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Tangoman
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Just had another peek at the webcam at 8.30 p.m. - only 4 cyclists and 2 cars on the road. Just saying!!
Sparky
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Chill out folks....
Over 16000 views of this post!!!
Have we nothing else to do!! Ha Ha
.... Just Saying!!
.... Ha Ha
Yes but the thread has been running for 2 years
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bobley
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And there's not really much to complain about is there? Apart from the fact that I'm not there...
Rockape
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Here's the thing.....Strava is the go to GPS app for all cyclists. It not only tracks their rides giving them all sorts of information relating to calories burnt, heart rate, distance etc, but has 'Segments' in which the fastest person to ever ride it wins a KOM (king of the mountain). All great fun, as you can test yourself against your mates and the world and there are millions of segments all over the world. I am an MTB rider and love it.
The problem is, that there are a number of segments along the front at PP, which is entirely the wrong place, as it encourages riders to go as fast as they can to improve their time. Now most sensible riders will see its the wrong place and ignore it, but some won't! I think I might report the segments to Strava as dangerous and ask them to be removed. (which you can) I do believe that its Strava that causes most of the problems that cyclist create and I know for a fact people have been seriously injured and even killed trying to ride as fast as they can, just for the kudos of a KOM or fast time.
For example there is a segment entitled 'Tolo's for Tea' which goes from Tolos, to Carrer de la Vela, which is 0.4m and the KOM is at an average speed of 29.4 mph.
Info: A cyclist currently faces charges of manslaughter in San Francisco after accusations he ignored a red light and crashed into a 71-year-old pedestrian who later died from head injuries. According to prosecutors, the accused was using Strava at the time.
In a separate case, the family of a cyclist who died while trying to regain his recently beaten KOM title in 2010 is suing the firm.
William "Kim" Flint had been clocked going over 40mph (64km/h) downhill before he braked to avoid a car, causing his bike to flip over.
His family's lawyer said Strava was partly responsible because it had created a "Wild West culture where that is encouraged and rewarded with no warnings about the risks".
The problem is, that there are a number of segments along the front at PP, which is entirely the wrong place, as it encourages riders to go as fast as they can to improve their time. Now most sensible riders will see its the wrong place and ignore it, but some won't! I think I might report the segments to Strava as dangerous and ask them to be removed. (which you can) I do believe that its Strava that causes most of the problems that cyclist create and I know for a fact people have been seriously injured and even killed trying to ride as fast as they can, just for the kudos of a KOM or fast time.
For example there is a segment entitled 'Tolo's for Tea' which goes from Tolos, to Carrer de la Vela, which is 0.4m and the KOM is at an average speed of 29.4 mph.
Info: A cyclist currently faces charges of manslaughter in San Francisco after accusations he ignored a red light and crashed into a 71-year-old pedestrian who later died from head injuries. According to prosecutors, the accused was using Strava at the time.
In a separate case, the family of a cyclist who died while trying to regain his recently beaten KOM title in 2010 is suing the firm.
William "Kim" Flint had been clocked going over 40mph (64km/h) downhill before he braked to avoid a car, causing his bike to flip over.
His family's lawyer said Strava was partly responsible because it had created a "Wild West culture where that is encouraged and rewarded with no warnings about the risks".
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favie
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That is an interesting post Rockape....and a touch worrying to say the least!
Good info for us non-cyclists...explains a lot!
Good info for us non-cyclists...explains a lot!
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MPH133
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Here's the thing.....Strava is the go to GPS app for all cyclists. It not only tracks their rides giving them all sorts of information relating to calories burnt, heart rate, distance etc, but has 'Segments' in which the fastest person to ever ride it wins a KOM (king of the mountain). All great fun, as you can test yourself against your mates and the world and there are millions of segments all over the world. I am an MTB rider and love it.
The problem is, that there are a number of segments along the front at PP, which is entirely the wrong place, as it encourages riders to go as fast as they can to improve their time. Now most sensible riders will see its the wrong place and ignore it, but some won't! I think I might report the segments to Strava as dangerous and ask them to be removed. (which you can) I do believe that its Strava that causes most of the problems that cyclist create and I know for a fact people have been seriously injured and even killed trying to ride as fast as they can, just for the kudos of a KOM or fast time.
For example there is a segment entitled 'Tolo's for Tea' which goes from Tolos, to Carrer de la Vela, which is 0.4m and the KOM is at an average speed of 29.4 mph.
Info: A cyclist currently faces charges of manslaughter in San Francisco after accusations he ignored a red light and crashed into a 71-year-old pedestrian who later died from head injuries. According to prosecutors, the accused was using Strava at the time.
In a separate case, the family of a cyclist who died while trying to regain his recently beaten KOM title in 2010 is suing the firm.
William "Kim" Flint had been clocked going over 40mph (64km/h) downhill before he braked to avoid a car, causing his bike to flip over.
His family's lawyer said Strava was partly responsible because it had created a "Wild West culture where that is encouraged and rewarded with no warnings about the risks".
I wonder if the device told them to go over a cliff, would they follow it?
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Julian Simms
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I beg to differ with the comment about the cycle lane now being safer.
As it is now a lot smoother, “professional” cyclists, and not those out for a relaxing ride, can, and do, cycle along the lane at speeds that are quite a lot faster than the suggested 20 kph limit, exposing other cyclists and pedestrians to quite some danger, as they are virtually silent and come out of nowhere, in both directions, in no time at all.
All fair and good where the cycle lane is adjacent to the road, but I feel that a strict speed limit should be applied, and enforced, along the pedestrian part of the new road, especially in the evenings, when kids and animals are out and about on push bikes, skates and anything else on two wheels.
As it is now a lot smoother, “professional” cyclists, and not those out for a relaxing ride, can, and do, cycle along the lane at speeds that are quite a lot faster than the suggested 20 kph limit, exposing other cyclists and pedestrians to quite some danger, as they are virtually silent and come out of nowhere, in both directions, in no time at all.
All fair and good where the cycle lane is adjacent to the road, but I feel that a strict speed limit should be applied, and enforced, along the pedestrian part of the new road, especially in the evenings, when kids and animals are out and about on push bikes, skates and anything else on two wheels.
debz1
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I agree with everything you say although You have to watch out for those pesky animals on their skateboards
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clinkham
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It would seem Strava is to cycling what AirBnb is to the regulation of the holiday rental market. 
Just a thought - could you use the Strava system on a motorbike?
Just a thought - could you use the Strava system on a motorbike?