What is the exact position about apartments in 2018

[animagic21]

Are they all mad?! None of this makes sense!!!

 

[Rosie34]

I've given up trying to understand the convoluted explaantions/implications

 

[favie]

Only thing I understand is I won't be having my holiday in PP this year!

Looked at a tourist apartment today, as last resort, 1 bedroom......same price as a 3 bed/2 bathroom seaview apt. in St Eulalia where we have a wedding to attend in June. Think I will have my second holiday in Bonnie Scotland this year and hope things change for 2019.

 

[Sparky]

From the MDB :-

Rentals licences moratorium to be lifted in mid-July.


The moratorium on the issuing of new holiday rentals licences is due to be lifted on 15 July. For this to happen, the Council of Majorca's zoning plan has to be definitively approved by the full council session - one scheduled for 12 July. Between now and then, the Balearic Environment Commission, which falls under the government's environment ministry, has to issue its own report into the plan. The latest draft of the plan takes account of alterations made following submissions for greater restrictions and, in seven instances, less restriction.

From 15 July, owners should therefore be able to apply for a new licence from the tourism ministry. There are, however, a host of factors to be taken into account. The first and most obvious one is the definition of the zone in which the property is located. This affects whether letting can be all year or for a maximum of sixty days and be the owner's main residence in the latter case. In general, where rentals are permissible all year, this applies to all types of property. There are, however, certain exceptions, such as Muro, where apartment holiday rentals are not going to be permitted at all.

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Full story here :- https://majorcadailybulletin.com/ne...tals-licences-moratorium-lifted-mid-july.html

 

[bobley]

Its all a bit sad really? If I wanted to rent my little house out (which has all the certificates and metering mentioned in the article, but it's in the old town and not my habitual residence anyway) then I'd have to pay several thousand euros just for the privilege of being able to charge ~ €2000 a year of which I'd have to give €400 back as tax so that wont be happening.

Instead I'll let my friends stay for free as long as they keep the place clean and bring back my mail. As the temporary guests wont be paying tourists they wont pay any tourist tax and I wont pay any tax on the rental (I will have to pay my none rental tax though... rats, hadn't thought of that...).

Perhaps I should try to stay a bit longer and qualify for habitual status...sounds quiet a nice idea.. but I prefer the UK TBH.

It will certainly be interesting to see the stats at the end of the season...

 

[Sparky]

We went there last night. Very nicely styled and the menu has many original dishes. We had the salmon, steak and chicken ones. Novel creme brule. Very good service and pleasant island wines. Well worth a visit as some of the restaurants are getting predictable.

My only improvement would be to have some greens with the dishes.

The town does seem oddly quiet. It cannot just be the rentals issue, can it?

I think the rental issue is the biggest reason for the lack of tourists .

 

[Carol]

Before we jump to any conclusions about ‘lack of tourists’ maybe we should wait until the Irish,Scottish summer holidays at the end of this month and the English at the end of July.

 

[Sparky]

Before we jump to any conclusions about ‘lack of tourists’ maybe we should wait until the Irish,Scottish summer holidays at the end of this month and the English at the end of July.

Sorry Carol but i am talking about how it has been so far this year and it is very quiet with some places reporting a 25% to 50% drop in takings. Of course it will improve in July and August but i worry that it will not be enough for some businesses to survive

 

[Bekki]

My in-laws are currently on holiday as they do every June for a couple of weeks. They have said how quiet it is around during the day in comparison with previous years. Evenings in their local haunts are a little quiet too. They are not complaining as are having a great time but as we all do wjo love PP worry for how this affects the local businesses. Fingers crossed they end up having a good summer as they work so incredibly hard and deserve suceess.

 

[Meerkat]

I do wonder if the change in law regarding rentals is having an impact. We had an awful job finding a suitable place to rent this year as we are not keen on hotels and prefer to self cater. There was definitely fewer places to rent than in previous years and I do worry that this will impact on the local bars, shops, restaurants etc.

 

[favie]

Before we jump to any conclusions about ‘lack of tourists’ maybe we should wait until the Irish,Scottish summer holidays at the end of this month and the English at the end of July.

Like every year it is busier through school holidays...this year it will be again BUT just not as busy as in the past so there will be a 'lack of tourists' even through school holidays because of no private rentals. Sadly, it is obviously going to be the case when you think of the abundance of rentals no longer available.
Fingers crossed some miracle happens for the businesses.

 

[favie]

Sorry Carol but i am talking about how it has been so far this year and it is very quiet with some places reporting a 25% to 50% drop in takings. Of course it will improve in July and August but i worry that it will not be enough for some businesses to survive

So sad.

 

[scotslizzy]

Very Sad

I can imagine all the little supermarkets dotted along the seafront struggling . The private apartment we had last year was fab and the small supermarket below us did a roaring trade .

Are we really supposed to believe that all these holiday apartments will now be filled with local people seeking accommodation?

I firmly believe that the local gov should obviously be looking at the housing situation for the locals ,but come on a place like PP thrives on private rentals as most of us like to eat out at least once a day .

Sorry for rant but I feel for the hard working staff and owners who must be fearful for their future .

Still coming in Sept and will enjoy as usual .

Scotslizzy

 

[Bircho]

Love this quote from todays Diario de Mallorca - worth filing under no s*** sherlock:

"And all point to another factor: the threat of heavy penalties for unregulated tourist rentals has led to a fall in this type of offer, and the loss of visitors who were characterized by a considerable expense in the areas where they were staying . "We knew they were important clients, but we did not think that their absence would affect us that much," says Alfonso Robledo."

This guy runs the nightclub Association. He also says hotels have put their prices up meaning people are still arriving but they haven't got as much disposable income. Wonder when the Majorcan government start their dummies guide to Economics course.

 

[P&C@29]

Did they not realise that if you cut back on private apartment rentals this also reduces the number of people going out for lunch/dinner and it will also impact on supermarkets, gift shops and all other retail outlets. I can't see many locals wanting to pay 500 to 1000 euros a week in rent.

 

[supamac]

Point proven by friends of ours who always took three weeks in an apartment but can only run to 2 weeks in an aparthotel. One week when they won't be eating out, drinking etc. Small difference but add it all up ..... government is daft!

 

[Sparky]

In the MDB here :- https://majorcadailybulletin.com/ne...sses-because-holiday-rentals-legislation.html.

Enormous losses because of holiday rentals legislation.

The Habtur holiday rentals association yesterday presented a new campaign for integrated tourism which has the aim of demonstrating the social and economic benefits of a correct use of holiday rentals.

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At yesterday's presentation, the associations highlighted the losses that have been incurred since the introduction of Balearic holiday rentals legislation last summer. In total, it was claimed, these amount to an annual figure of 1,000 million euros, a tenth of this the loss to around 20,000 families who have found it more or less impossible to continue renting out their homes (or second homes) to tourists. On top of this are the losses for restaurants, bars, shops, supermarkets and others; all the consequence of the "negative effects" of the legislation.

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The associations agreed that they have experienced significant falls in sales. Alfonso Robledo, president of the restaurants association, said that business turnover in parts of Majorca has dropped by 30%. He picked out Cala d'Or for particular mention, adding that this has had a negative impact on employment.

 

[favie]

Did they not realise that if you cut back on private apartment rentals this also reduces the number of people going out for lunch/dinner and it will also impact on supermarkets, gift shops and all other retail outlets. I can't see many locals wanting to pay 500 to 1000 euros a week in rent.

Yep, and all they top-end apartments in the likes of Bellresguard and Pinewalk, I can't bear to think of them mostly lying empty (or are they?) when owners aren't there. They cost a fortune and renters there were usually huge big spenders in local shops/restaurants .....I hate the thought of PP businesses suffering because of this ill-thought-out law. Look after locals most definitely but local economy too.

 

[favie]

So the penny finally drops Sparky.

 

[Sparky]

So the penny finally drops Sparky.

Yes but is it too late Favie?.
There will be plenty of apartments for the workers but will they have any work to pay the rent, it's a crazy situation. The government did not look at the big picture, they just wanted to please the hotel lobby .